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Poster: One does not discover new lands without consenting to leave sight of the shore for a very long time. -Andre Gide Main Discussion Topics Read Posts on this Topic This message is in reply to: Impact of state assessment - Sarah Lindsey Posted by: Bob Box Posted on: May 15, 2001 at 8:58 PM Message: Thanks, Sarah. Yes, it is frustrating. I think we have a solid elementary science program in our classrooms. We simply were not able to move it to a significantly higher a level. Teachers felt "o.k." with their science, but because of testing, panicked about mathematics.